From:   Bob Mays

     Date:  December 2, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion [Taken from Facebook]

Thanks for your efforts Jerry; hope things go well!

AFVN 2019 Reunion Planning

29 to October 3, Noh Carolina

Don't say "maybe some day."  Come and join us next year.

    From:   Steve Sevits

     Date:  December 3, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion 

Health concerns preclude me from traveling, but if there is anything I can do to assist in organizing from long distance, please advise and I'll pitch in.


    From:   Michael Goucher

     Date:  December 2, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion [Taken from Facebook]

When the musical play "Miss Saigon" returned to New York I felt the impulse to suggest the Big Apple as a possible location. However, unless we can get some assistance from another military organization for possible housing on Governors Island (a military base dating back to the Revolutionary War) and I just looked up Fort Totten in nearby Queens NY--not a suitable place- I just think my base is not OUR base. The only installation nearby is a Coast Guard base on Staten Island, one of our five boroughs. Cost-prohibitive, methinks. Sadly, President Nixon closed all the East Coast military installations above Annapolis, allegedly in retaliation for the people of these northern states not voting for him. For sure I had a great time in 2014 and was unable to go to North Carolina in 2016. Since I only recently learned of an attack upon my old Detachment 3 which shut things down and forced a move to the other side of Pleiku, RVN from Dragon Mountain (about 1en miles from Cambodia) I feel our story needs some updating, at least, and more camaraderie for sure!

    From:   Jerry Nelson and Jim White

     Date:  December 2, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion [Taken from Facebook]

Attention all AFVNers:
About the best one can say is that the plans for the 2018 Reunion came crashing down in flames. Partly Jim W's fault and partly because no one came forward saying that the would do the arrangements.
However, it is never too early to start thinking about the next one--perhaps in 2019. The following is from Chunk Ingle (Hon Tre, 1969-70). He suggests a location, some activities and to at least do part of the organizing.
TO QUOTE I had read some of the dialog pertaining to 2018, and saw that among the site choices was Minneapolis. This is my hometown, and where I spent most of my Radio ON AIR years. If the group were to select Minneapolis for 2019, (other than June or July), I would be glad to assist with organizing. Primarily, I'd be interested in arranging for local road-trips to area attractions. Quite possibly I may be able to influence a reduced group rate, in some cases no charge, for visits to places such as:
Minnesota Twins home game Tour of Paisley Park, the Prince private estate & recording complex Tour of a Minneapolis Television facility (Live studio, not guaranteed) Tour of the Pavek Museum (Minnesota Broadcasting)
Naturally the reunion dates chosen must correspond with the schedules of the venues above.
Several years ago, I arranged for the manufacture of a replica lapel/hat pin of the famous AFVN uniform patch. This is something that could be given to attendees, I may be able to get them sponsored. END QUOTE
Any and all please join in! What do you want to do, where do you want to go, and more importantly, what can you you do to help in the planning and running of the reunion. I also would like to know about how "busy" should we be? I have heard some comments that the reunions are "so busy" there is little time for conversation. Therefore, how many "activities" do you think we should have?
Thanks, Jim & Jerry,

    From:  Bob Morecook
     Date:  February 3, 2019
Subject:  AFVN 2019

Jerry, I am going to send this out again but to the SPECIAL list. Some folks only get reunion announcements, death announcements, and when we find a missing vet. Just letting you know why there will be a duplication. Bob

    From:   Mike Miller

     Date:  December 4, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion 

Hi Jerry, 
I'm forwarding this last piece of communication about the 2018 Reunion between Jim White and myself to hopefully shed some light on what happened.  I don't think I'm breaching any confidences with this. 
BTW, Chuck Ingle and I passed each other on his way out and my way in at Hon Tre.  If he's willing to do the reunion ground work, I would support that.  He and I have had some communication since, so I'm reasonably confident with my recommendation. 
Thanks, 
Mike Miller (Nha Trang/Hon Tre '70/'71)


    From:   Ken Kalish

     Date:  December 2, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion [Taken from Facebook]

I'm the one who tried to get a 2018 reunion going, and I was willing to listen to any suggestion. No one spoke about venues, particularly one afloat that turned out to be excessively expensive. I offered some land-based alternatives, but no joy. At each of the reunions I sheperded, I offered the HMFIC job to anyone who wanted it. I suspect the issue in 2018 was more me and my assistance fund than anything else. Without it, several participants couldn't have attended. I'll help anyone who asks for help in getting organized. We had some good times at the reunions, and there are more good times ahead.

    From: Chuck Ingle
     Date:  November 3, 2018 
Subject:   2019 Reunion 
Hi Jerry,

Thanks for your quick response. I had read some of the dialog pertaining to 2018, and saw that among the site choices was Minneapolis.  This is my hometown, and where I spent most of my Radio ON AIR years.  If the group were to select Minneapolis for 2019, (other than June or July), I would be glad to assist with organizing.  Primarily, I'd be interested in arranging for local road-trips to area attractions. 
Quite possibly I may be able to influence a reduced group rate, in some cases no charge, for visits to places such as: 
Minnesota Twins home game Tour of Paisley Park, the Prince private estate & recording complex Tour of a Minneapolis Television facility (Live studio, not guaranteed) Tour of the Pavek Museum (Minnesota Broadcasting) 
Naturally the reunion dates chosen must correspond with the schedules of the venues above. 
Several years ago, I arranged for the manufacture of a replica lapel/hat pin of the famous AFVN uniform patch.  This is something that could be given to attendees, I may be able to get them sponsored. 
-------------------------------------
I was unaware of the Where are we today?, section.  My am now in Roscoe, IL.  Please get me added. I'm the one who was asked by Jim Allingham, to create the Nha Trang Air Check.  Although the various segments were all razor-blade edits, I always took pride in an immaculate Saigon news-join.  I had the sign-on shift, in the days surrounding this recording. Thanks to Jim, this piece of history will live forever, on the Web. 
Warm Regards, Chuck


    From:   Jim White

     Date:  December 4, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion 

Hi Jerry, 
I'm forwarding this last piece of communication about the 2018 Reunion between Jim White and myself to hopefully shed some light on what happened.  I don't think I'm breaching any confidences with this. 
BTW, Chuck Ingle and I passed each other on his way out and my way in at Hon Tre.  If he's willing to do the reunion ground work, I would support that.  He and I have had some communication since, so I'm reasonably confident with my recommendation. 
Thanks, 
Mike Miller (Nha Trang/Hon Tre '70/'71)


    From:   Jim White

     Date:  December 4, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion 

Hi Jerry, 
I'm forwarding this last piece of communication about the 2018 Reunion between Jim White and myself to hopefully shed some light on what happened.  I don't think I'm breaching any confidences with this. 
BTW, Chuck Ingle and I passed each other on his way out and my way in at Hon Tre.  If he's willing to do the reunion ground work, I would support that.  He and I have had some communication since, so I'm reasonably confident with my recommendation. 
Thanks, 
Mike Miller (Nha Trang/Hon Tre '70/'71)


    From:   Dick Ellis

     Date:  December 3, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion 

Jerry, for the sake of accuracy...we did have a member offer all arrangements at the hot air balloon festival in the south west.....and I offered to help with arrangements if everyone wanted to take a cruise. 

Dickie


    From:  Jerry Nelson

     Date:  January 14, 2019

Subject:  AFVN 2019 

Hi Chuck, 
We are glad to hear from you.  I will attempt to answer some of your questions and concerns as an AFVN Vet and as an attendee of four AFVN Reunions. 
I think that each of the reunions has been in the late summer or early fall months so I would surmise that a September or early October reunion would be suitable.  I see no reason that Minneapolis would not be suitable.  You would always get people that would rather go someplace else no matter where you tried to set it up.  The reunions have always been set up as an approximate four day event (three nights in the hotel with more optional at the same rate) with an arrival day, two full days (Sat and Sun but since more people are now retired, we could probably change that if it lowers our hotel rates), and a departure day.  Usually on the last night we have attempted to have a catered banquet with some type of a program set up.  It has become customary that on this night that we have a silent auction for items that attendees have brought for that purpose.  At this point it is very difficult for me to give you an estimated guess as to how many would attend.  But I did have the thought that with you being a Det 4 member that it might persuade some AFVNers from Detachments to show. 
I thought the Veterans Affairs program was a good idea.  It would be nice to have one day of activities but I would not try to pack it that full.  This is just my opinion.  We are all getting a bit older and we had started to get some complaints of the hustle and bustle at the reunions. 
As far as RC goes I kind of get the idea that he may not travel much anymore.  As for Sajak, good luck with that one.  We have tried for years to make contact with Pat to no avail.  Heck, one time we even tried to go through Vanna White. 
Between Jim White and I we will handle registration and any fees associated with the reunion.  I believe that your fellow Minnesotan Ken Kalish will still be handling our funds for members who may not be financially able to make it to our reunions.  Ken has also indicated that he was able to help with legwork in the Minneapolis area. 
It would seem that what is needed at this point is to find a mid-priced hotel with a room large enough for us to meet and have meetings in.  I realize that this is no small undertaking to find a hotel that will work with us since at this point we cannot fully commit as to the size of our reunion. 
Throughout this process it is going to be imperative for you to keep in contact with Jim White and I as we have taken it upon ourselves to publicize and push this reunion. 
Thanks, 
Jerry Nelson and Jim White 
PS by Jim White:  In 2016 we had 24 AFVNers plus 12 or so spouses and guests. In 2014, the figures were 27 plus 10 and in 2012, we had 32 plus 20.   As you can see they are slowly going down perhaps due to the aging  of the group--who knows.  In the past we have guaranteed a total of 30 so it may be safe to do the same again.   This 30 level seems to be the cutoff for most hotels to give a free meeting room--large enough for 30 people plus tables and chairs for sitting and tables for displaying things people bring to show the others.   Our problem is that we often do not know the final number until perhaps 50 or 60 days before the event while the hotels want a definite as early as six months in advance.   Therefore we have to give the guarantee and then pray to the Rain (or whichever) God you prefer. 
To me, Minneapolis is a good choice because have been trying for a Central, West Coast, East Coast rotation and the last three have been Memphis, San Diego and Raleigh.


    From:  Jerry Nelson

     Date:  February 3, 2019

Subject:  AFVN 2019

Hello and Best Wishes to All, 
Jerry Nelson and I have been trying to test the waters about a 2019 AFVN Reunion.   I sent the following out on Facebook a month or more ago: 
"Attention all AFVN vets and friends. The following is a first lead on having a reunion in 2019. (In lieu of the 2018 reunion that fizzled.) Please think about this and send your ideas. I think the next one should be mid-America but that covers a lot of territory. The following is from Charles "Chuck" Ingle: QUOTE I had read some of the dialog pertaining to 2018, and saw that among the site choices was Minneapolis. This is my hometown, and where I spent most of my Radio ON AIR years. If the group were to select Minneapolis for 2019, (other than June or July), I would be glad to assist with organizing. Primarily, I'd be interested in arranging for local road-trips to area attractions. Quite possibly I may be able to influence a reduced group rate, in some cases no charge, for visits to places such as: 
(1) Minnesota Twins home game Tour of Paisley Park, (2) the Prince private estate & recording complex, (3) Tour of a Minneapolis Television facility (Live studio, not guaranteed), and (4) Tour of the Pavek Museum (Minnesota Broadcasting). Naturally the reunion dates chosen must correspond with the schedules of the venues above. Several years ago, I arranged for the manufacture of a replica lapel/hat pin of the famous AFVN uniform patch. This is something that could be given to attendees, I may be able to get them sponsored. Chuck Ingle

Four (repeat 4) people commented on this post but none of them said anything about attending or not.  Chuck Ingle (USA,Sp4, Hon Tre, 69-70) sent Jerry and I another message just yesterday and he is still interested in doing the "ground work" (hotel and events, etc.) for an AFVN Reunion.  He is going to Minneapolis on Friday, the 15th, and would like to try to started. 
However, a "start" requires finding out how interested all of you are in a 2019 Reunion, therefore: 
QUESTION:  Are you interested in attending a Sept/Oct  2019 AFVN Reunion? 
If yes, please write and say so. If no, please write and tell us why or give us an alternative (to include someone willing  to do the groundwork. 
If yes, do we have to stick with the Friday/Saturday/Sunday schedule?   Most of us are retired and weekday hotel rooms might be cheaper. 
Please reply, even if somewhat tentative--just say so, by February 8th.  I know this is a short deadline, but procrastination is not an option! 
I am honestly beginning to feel that most of you are (1) burned out over too many reunions, (2) too old or tired to travel, or (3) are thinking "to Hell with AFVN".  I hope it is not # 3. 
Jim White (author) and Jerry Nelson (reviewer) 
PS:  SGM E-9s have a strong dislike of procrastination by the lower grades, from O-5 down! 

    From:   Dickie Ellis
     Date:  October 1, 2018 
Subject:   Sold: Frying Pan Tower flag sells for more than $10,000 
This would be a good place for our next reunion!!!  some could fish...some could skeet shoot....some could drink.....and we could throw anyone disagreeable over-board....   They do rent this place out for the weekend....   

Dickie


A friend wanted you to see this item from WRAL.com:

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    From:   Ken Kalish
     Date:  October 1, 2018 
Subject:   Sold: Frying Pan Tower flag sells for more than $10,000 

​Heck of an idea, Dickie.  However, I don’t think the folks who suggested a cruise for our next gathering would be satisfied with this alternative.  For those who like to fish, giant groupers (as opposed to ordinary five to ten pound groupers) seem to congregate around offshore installations..  Who knows?  Someone might bring up one of those 300 to 400 pounders! 
Ken Kalish


Note:  The Frying Pan Tower is off shore from North Carolina.  I thought we just had a reunion there.  Webmaster


    From:   Jerry Nelson

     Date:  December 2, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion [Taken from Facebook]

Ken Kalish - I don't think anybody realizes the effort that you and Lila have put forth in our reunions from day 1. I am deeply grateful for the work on the assistance fund and the work you put forth with registration. I have certainly not heard assistance fund complaints. When we couldn't find anybody to do boots on the ground work in Texas, 2018 just fizzled.

    From:  Ken Kalish
     Date:  February 7, 2019
Subject:  2019 Reunion

Minneapolis is my not-too-distant stomping grounds.  In fact, Lila still works at a law office in the metro.  My son still lives there, too.  I am open to doing whatever needs doing.  I’m at the Minneapolis VA every month.  It’s 205 miles from the farm to the VA.

I also know that we have members who need to stay home when school starts, but who would love to come.  If we hit the last week of August, we can tie in the Minnesota State Fair as an activity, and possibly get early notification of the acts appearing in that event.  Several big name acts play for free at the Liene band shell. Here’s the state fair’s promo of it:  https://www.mnstatefair.org/location/leinie-lodge-bandshell-stage  Delivering both local and national talent for decades, the Leinie Lodge Bandshell is always a top draw -- plus it's FREE with fair admission!

The Mall of America is always a big draw for the ladies.  I have hosted national reunions in Minneapolis before for my River Rat buddies, and have a good contact at one of the major hotel chains.  I could probably set up a tour of the CBS owned broadcast facilities, too, having once been a member of the Minnesota Broadcasters’ Association.  There’s a great jazz club in St. Paul.

Once you decide on dates and events, I can help arrange transportation.

Let me know what’s needed and I will contribute as much as possible.

Ken

    From:  Jerry Nelson and Jim White
     Date:  February 10, 2019
Subject:  2019 AFVN Reunion

NOTE:  Joint message from Jerry Nelson and Jim White 

Greetings to all, 
Attached is a PDF file summarizing the results of the survey regarding attending the 2019 Reunion.  Further input welcome and required.   Note that the figures do not add up correctly to the list of responses--some people said Yes to Minneapolis and then immediately said How about Texas? 
Within the next couple of hours I hope to have links on our site to two pages.  One will show the discussions regarding the planning and the other showing everyone's responses to our message on attending a 2019 reunion in Minneapolis. 
Jerry and I have decided that since Chuck Ingle has already started making plans for Minneapolis and, of the many replies promoting Texas, no one volunteered.  The two of us had a 90 minute or so conference call with Chuck a few days ago and we have full confidence in him.  One response suggested someone else to run the reunion, but volunteering someone else is a no-no. 
We would like to suggest that the Texas group perhaps plan for a 2020 Reunion in Texas.  We do suggest that you do not plan it for this year because two reunions in the same year might conflict and lower attendance at both. 
Hoping to see as many of you as possible in Minneapolis. 
Jim W and Jerry N (Webmasters)

  From:  Chuck Ingle 
     Date:  November 2, 2018 
Subject:   2018 Reunion 
Today I tried looking for a reunion update, to check the planning progress or see if I'd missed another one. It appears that 2018 is in a stall. Has it been dropped, and is 2019 being planned? I'm still looking to attend my first one. 
Thanks, Chuck


    From:   Jerry Nelson

     Date:  December 4, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion 

Dick, 
Jim and I tried to push forward the 2018 Reunion when we were offered a set up man for Albuquerque but we seemed to be met with a few protests.  I think both of us felt a little burnt by the whole thing.  Thanks for the great reunion that you organized in Raleigh.  A truly memorable and fulfilling event.  Hope all is well! 
Jerry


    From:   Jerry Nelson
     Date:  November 3, 2018 
Subject:   2019 Reunion 
Chuck,
The 2018 reunion did in fact fizzle out.  We had taken a vote as to where people wanted to have it and San Antonio, Texas was chosen, however, nobody ever offered to do the leg work in setting a reunion up there.  We finally had an AFVNer offer to take charge and do the leg work for a reunion in Albuquerque, New Mexico.  At that point several people complained that that we were changing the site that had been voted on.  I then offered to attempt to set up one near my hometown in Indianapolis and had no interest shown.  Personally, I would hope that we could open up a discussion again about a future reunion but we must find a place where somebody is willing to do the work of organizing.
We have you on our roster but I don't find you in our "Where Are We Now" section.  Where are you located?  Good hearing from you and thanks for visiting our website.  Jim White has put in a tremendous amount of work on it.
Jerry Nelson 


    From:   Bob Morecook

     Date:  December 2, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion [Taken from Facebook]

I admire your dedication


    From:   David Summers

     Date:  December 2, 2018

Subject:  2019 Reunion [Taken from Facebook]

I remember Chuck Ingle on Hon Tre island.

Go to the Nha Trang/Cam Ranh Bay  (Det 4)page for a short conversation about Hon Tre.