AFVN Group Conversations

    From:  Stan Pratt

     Date:  January 8, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young  (Hmong)

We had a villa about three blocks from the beach in Nha Trang in 1965 and 66 which we shared with the FF1 PIO, a Lt. Colonel Hamerick and SMJ Delano.  There was a contingent of about six Hmongs living in the villa to provide security.  Loved every one of them.  They were wonderful people.
Stan


AWOL to Vietnam to Serve as a Civilian Correspondent

The Story of Perry Deane Young, a UPI Correspondent in Saigon during 1968 TET

Also contains some comments about the Montagnard, Mung and Hmong)

January 2019

    From:  Marc Yablonka

     Date:  January 11, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young  (Montagnards and Mung)

That’s so sad, Dick. About the influence on the young by McD’s I mean. By any chance, do you remember the Chief gardener’s name? I knew a Rhade Montagnard gardener in Greensboro by the name of H’Doi Ksa many years ago. He was married to a Cambodian gal. Last I heard anything about him, he had made a fortune and had several jardineros working for him!

    From:  Dick Ellis

     Date:  January 7, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young  (Montagnard)

Marc... I just wrote a long answer to you and now I cannot find it!  We love our Montagnard people.  Although he passed away about 4-years ago...our chief grounds keeper at the State Capitol was a yard.  Unfortunately, the Big Mac’s and sugar reap havoc with these peoples bodies and diabetes is so common.  There are now more than a quarter million of these allies in NC alone.  St. Paul is the largest population. 

Dickie

    From:  Dick Ellis

   Dated:  January 7, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young

Perry Deane Young at refugee camp near Khe Sanh, Vietnam.

Courtesy of Perry Deane Young

PBS’ documentary series “The Vietnam War” has stirred up memories for many who served in Vietnam. The wartime diary entries of Perry Deane Young, a writer who worked as a UPI correspondent in Saigon during the Tet Offensive, appear below.

Most of those around me at the Fort Gordon Military Police School [in January 1967] will go directly to Vietnam. I’m in the Army Reserve and I will go to my job as a reporter in New York. There is only one class about Vietnam and “GO-rilla” warfare. It is a fun class that promises a fun war. “Awrite now class, what do you need to fight the gorillas?” “Guns.” “Propaganda.” “Bananas.” “Y’all better pay attention cause you’ll need this stuff in Vietnam. Ol’ Charlie may not believe in the cause either, but he’ll damn sure kill you if you don’t kill him first.”
***
In New York, I am 26 years old and having the time of my life waiting to be sent to Saigon as a UPI correspondent. I casually leave my Army Reserve obligation behind and head for the war in Vietnam – maybe the only guy ever to go AWOL in order to go to war.
***
Saigon, oh, Saigon, the Paris, the Pearl of the Orient. A French colonial gem set down halfway around the world and totally decadent by the time we get there in the 1950s and 60s. The travel agent who books my round-the-world Pan Am flight in January 1968 is so excited over sharing in a young man’s first visit to Saigon, he writes 15 pages on the beauty of the people and the city I will be experiencing – the beautiful girls in flowing white silk ao dais, the wide tree-lined boulevards, a long slow frosted glass of pernod on the terrace of the old Continental Palace. Graham Greene has been there as a reporter; now I am going too.
***
Tet 1968 is millions of firecrackers, matching the chaos of a million motorcycles in the streets. Everybody is out celebrating the new year of the monkey. Sheets of firecrackers are strung from the tops of buildings and lit to scare off the evil dragons. It is an oriental Mardi Gras. Young and naïve, I am overwhelmed by the joy all around me and embrace every bit of it. The whole city is one big party. Around 3 a.m. the explosions are no longer firecrackers. The dragons are firing real mortars and rockets. My office calls me and says Saigon is under attack: “If you can get across the street, come to work.”
***
Hungover and shocked beyond belief, Saigon awakes to an eerie calm as silent military ambulances roam about the city removing the wounded and the dead. Rounding a corner beside the splendid new American-built Presidential Palace, I stumble into a firefight between some Americans on the ground and a Viet Cong sniper high up in a new apartment building. Fresh out of MP school myself, I see the lifeless bodies of two of my young colleagues hanging out each side of a jeep. One tiny dead VC lies like a discarded rag doll behind the jeep. Two bantam roosters peck at the puddles of blood and then start trying to kill each other just like the other animals.
***
We stand waiting to get on a medevac chopper into the fighting across the river in the old Hue Citadel. Two medics come out of a doorway labeled “Make Love not War” and start cooking a goose they’ve just liberated from a nearby house. We watch as a spotter plane gets shot down just a few hundred feet from us. A jeep roars up with the pilot’s charred body. The medics unzip the bag so the body will cool.
***
At Charlie Med now at Khe Sanh waiting for a helicopter to come through the fog and carry me out of here with the wounded. 31 on the last two choppers. Nine dead here now beside me in those black rubber body bags that make it all seem so clean. Tape recorder plays Donovan singing about the sunshine coming in his window today. A young medic sweeps the floor with a bloody broom, whistling the tune.
***
I am standing at the Dong Ha Air Strip when the news of Bobby Kennedy’s assassination comes over a little transistor radio. An old gunny sergeant looks at me and says he doesn’t really understand how something like that could happen. But, hey, he says, “I reckon it’s the same thing you’ve got in a war: you don’t like somethin’ you kill it.”
***
Sean Flynn steps out of make-believe heroics to become a real-life hero, a connoisseur of war in Vietnam. He faces real death-defying dangers in the Ashau Valley his dad (the actor Errol Flynn) only saw on movie sets. Fresh out of rural Vermont, Dana Stone creates his own movie, becoming “mini grunt” to all the Marines. His short muscular body has more combat experience than any 10 Marines.
***
That last day, April 6, 1970, in Chi Pou, Cambodia, they sit taunting each other about driving their motorcycles into communist territory. Stone says it’s too dangerous; he’s got a wife back at the hotel. Flynn says, Of course it’s dangerous, that’s what makes it a good story. They drive down an embattled roadway, never to be seen again. Like Housman’s Athlete Dying Young, they will not live to grow old and wear their laurels out; they are forever enshrined in that last photograph, young and alive as they set off on another adventure.

***
So we’re back in the world now and nothing will ever be the same.. Flynn warned us about that. I’m 28 years old and my life is all in the past. I know I’ll never experience such fear, such joy as I felt among my buddies in the war. Tim Page is horribly wounded. Flynn and Stone are still among the missing in Cambodia. Michael Herr, one of the brightest and best of our colleagues, is totally burned out by all he witnessed in Vietnam. I stop by to see him in his tiny village apartment.. He sits staring at an old black and white TV with the sound off, smoking joint after joint into oblivion. He says sometimes you think the dead have just been spared a lot of pain.
***
Thirty-five years have now passed since the end of the war. We gather in Cambodia and Vietnam to pay tribute to those who did not survive. We sit among Buddhist monks on the spot where two American television crews were beaten to death. We stand where Flynn and Stone were last seen alive. We walk in horror among the human bones that still litter the killing fields. Someone asks the question that haunts us all: Why were we able to live on while so many others died? Matt Franjola says we were left to bear witness.


Perry Deane Young currently resides in Chapel Hill, NC.

Read more here:

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article175812641.html#storylink=cpy


     From:  Marc Yablanka
   Dated:  January 4, 2019
Subject:  Did You Know Him?    (Perry Deane Young)

Dick, Didn't know Perry Deane Young but certainly knew of him. Have friends that knew and worked with him in Vietnam and will pass this on. Gonna step out on a bit of a limb here though and say that the obit writer in the News & Observer, I think, got it wrong when he stated that Dennis Hopper's character in "Apocalypse Now" was supposed to be Tim Page. I'd always heard that Hopper's character more mirrored Sean Flynn. Having met, befriended and interviewed Page in Phnom Penh, Washington, D.C. and L.A. years after the war, I'd say that he was and is about as far a cry from Hopper's portrayal as can be...but I could be wrong, mind you! Happy New Year, Marc

     From:  Marc Yablanka
   Dated:  January 4, 2019
Subject:  My Error

Yesterday, I opined, per the obit on Perry Deane Young that Dick sent around that the Dennis Hopper character in the film Apocalypse Now was based on Sean Flynn and not Tim Page. It seems I was indeed wrong. My friend Jim Caccavo, the writer/photographer for the Red Cross and, at the same time, stringer for Newsweek Magazine, writes, "Hopper's character was 100 % based on  Page.  He even had his speech mannerisms down." I guess the Tim Page I first met in 1996 in Cambodia and then twice more afterwards, has mellowed since Vietnam! Apologies. Marc

     From:  Dick Ellis
   Dated:  January 4, 2019
Subject:  Did You Know Him?    (Perry Deane Young)

Deaths

Perry Deane Young, a journalist and author who first found fame as a Vietnam War correspondent, has died in Chapel Hill. He died on New Year's Day at age 77; the cause of death was cancer, according to a post on his Facebook page. Young, a native of Woodfin, near Asheville, grew up on a farm before coming to Chapel Hill in 1959 to attend UNC. Young wrote plays and books, including the 1977 best-seller "The David Kopay Story," about a professional football player's odyssey after he came out as gay. Young was gay himself and brought ample empathy to the project. But Young was best-known for his stint as a war correspondent for United Press International. He arrived in Vietnam at the height of the conflict, the same day the January 1968 Tet Offensive started. In Saigon, Young ran with a crowd that included fellow reporters and photographers Sean Flynn (son of the actor Errol Flynn), Dana Stone and Tim Page. Page was later fictionalized as the Dennis Hopper character in the 1979 movie "Apocalypse Now."

(David Menconi, THE NEWS & OBSERVER, 1/03/19)

    From:  Marc Yablonka

     Date:  January 7, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young  (Montagnard)

Dick, Since you're in NC, I'm just curious whether you've ever mingled with the fairly large Montagnard population that lives there. In `93, I was on assignment for Soldier of Fortune magazine when a "Combined Action Force" comprised of personnel from the UNHCR, Catholic Charities, Lutheran Family Services, the SF community at Ft. Bragg and some others were successful at bringing about 300 Montagnards who'd been persecuted for their Christian faith and were hiding from Hanoi in the jungles of Cambodia over to Greensboro and Raleigh. There was a huge welcome reception for them at Guilford College, a Quaker institution in Greensboro, that I will never ever forget.

Marc

    From:  Dick Ellis

     Date:  January 11, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young  (Montagnards and Mung)

Marc, We love our Mung people.  They are spreading all over the state.  Up until a couple of years ago, when he passed away, the chief grounds keeper for the state Capital was a Montagnards.  I think like all “New-Modern” people the Big Mac’s and soft drinks wreak havoc on their bodies....


    From:  Ken Kalish

     Date:  January 7, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young

Great read, almost Hemingway styling.  Thanks, Dickie!
Ken Kalish


    From:  Marc Yablonka

     Date:  January 7, 2019

Subject:  Perry Deane Young

Great folks they are, Dick. You mentioned St. Paul. Of course, both Minnesota and Wisconsin have huge Hmong populations. Two or three Memorial Day weekends ago, after my book about the secret war in Laos, "Tears Across the Mekong", had just been published, I flew up to Milwaukee, rented a car and drove out to Sheboygan for a very well attended celebration honoring the contribution those folks made to our efforts in Laos. The women's costumes are so vividly bright and beautiful!