Comments on Photos 1 through 4
(Each picture is numbered in the upper-right corner.)
Ron Barron: How bizarre can war and peace is when former enemies are vanquished and then become allies to subjugate a former ally! This is true that the French allowed the Japanese Arm in Indochina to remain armed in order to regain control of there colonial empire in Southeast Asia. [sic.]
Facebook Comments on Photos 5 through 8
Keith Goudy - VietnamWarHistory.org: Peter DeForest posted these on the World Wars Facebook page. I screen printed a few of the photos.
These four photos of Saigon in October 1945, which had been occupied by the Japanese during part of World War Two util September 1945 when the French were given back control of Vietnam.
Peter DeForest added 52 photos to the album: Saigon - October 1945 on January 25th, 2018.
Saigon Indochina - October 1945
Te Viet Minh led by Ho Chi Minh proclaimed the indepedence of Indochina/Vietnam after the Japanese surrender it September 1945. Anarchy, rioting and murder were widespread in Saigon after administrative services collapsed.
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Keith Goudy: Thank you, Peter, for finding these old photos. Keith
Larry Jones: Sipped a few 33's sitting on that veranda in 51 and 52.
Allen Lance: I don't under the two "soldiers" or whatever they were wearing sandals, unusual footwear for western military but perhaps these two in the white shirts were North African colonials.
Nguyen Ky Phong: Allen Lance: Prior to te time "France was given back the control of Vietnam, "the southern half of Vietnam was "liberated" from the Japanese by the British. Those were British and/or East Indian soldiers. During this time, American OSS chief (for southern Vietnam) LTC Pete Dewey was mistakenly killed by the Vietminh a few miles north of where these pictures were taken.
Keith Goudy: I copied a comment from Peter from the other Facebook page about the photos.
Peter DeForest: We had a conversation about this;
Indochina was Vichy French and mainly cooperated with the Japanese until March 1945 when Japan overthrew the Vichy French Colonial govt and interned most of the French forces in Indochina as a result of France being liberated.
The Interned Saigon area French Colonial troops were freed on September 22, 1945 and then armed and dispatched in combat units towards Saigon to conquer it from the Vietminh.
They were probably armed with weapons the French Colonial forces had before 1940.
Note some have Japanese rifles
While there is no record of the Japanese forces helping the French against the Vietminh in Saigon, the one picture [#3]shows a person in a Japanese army uniform with rifle with French troops on the bridge.
Jeremy Kotkin: Just think if we'd supported Vietnamese independence after the war instead of turning them back over to French colonial rule.
Some Comments by the Webmaster
[Each photo is numbered in the upper right corner.]
You can learn more about life in Saigon during September 1945 in Germainie Krull's diary.
Photo #1: Can anyone translate the name over the door, please?
Photo #2: An unarmed Japanese military guard.
Photo #3: The men in sandals shouldn't be unusual for "city" duty in a tropical climate. The
Japanese soldier armed with a rifle shows that the Japanese were allowed to
keep light weapons and assisted the French troops.
Photo #4: Perhaps the Japanese Headquarters in Saigon. The rider has to be an officer.
Photo #5: More French soldiers wearing sandals.
Photo #6: Many of the French out on the rubber plantations, etc., moved into the
Continental Hotel for security reasons.
Photo #7: Perhaps the beginning of Tudo Street near the Continental Hotel?
Photo #8: A French grocery store of some kind. There were food shortages during this
period and it is crowded with westerners. Two envious Vietnamese are
The first four pictures (1941 to 1945) were posted by Keith Goudy, VietnamWarHistory.org in January 2019.
According to Trinh Nguyen, the first photo is of the Train Station and Port Authority of the time.
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